Many homes are on a concrete slab and a big question we often get is how to install over concrete. So I asked our great guys over at Tech & Install to give us some ideas on how to install 3/4" solid Bellawood over concrete.
1st method: Floating plywood subfloor system:
Concrete should be clean and level up to 1/8” over 6’. Apply a 6mil mil poly sheeting over the concrete overlapping the seams 6 inches and tape with duct tape. Install a layer of 1/2” plywood over the poly sheeting. Next install a second layer of 1/2” plywood at a 45 degree angle to the first layer. Screw the top layer of plywood to the bottom layer. Be sure not to penetrate the poly sheeting with the screws. Allow for a ½” expansion space between the plywood and any walls and 1/8” gap between square edge plywood panels. Last install 15lb black roofing paper over the plywood and install the flooring over the roofing paper. When installing the flooring use 1 ½” fasteners to prevent nails from going through the plywood.
2nd method: Elastilon underlayment:
Elastilon is a 1/8” thick underlayment with a self adhesive system. To use this product over concrete you will have to apply a 6 mil poly sheeting over the concrete first, overlapping the seam 6” and tape with duct tape. Roll out the Elastilon perpendicular to the direction of your floor installation. Butt the seams of the Elastion together (do not overlap). Next begin your installation of the flooring following Elastilons’ installation instructions. When using Elastilon cull out badly bowed or twisted board and add 15% more wood for waste.
Hey Raven,
In order to install a wood floor properly over the Elastilon underlayment the instructions should be followed carefully and proper expansion break is a must for big rooms.
If you were to install the 50ft section going with the long length of the floor boards and not the width, you can go 50ft without adding a transition break.
When dealing with a 5” wide plank I like to put transitions in all doorways. This will allow extra room for the floor to expand. In any case the instructions should be followed. The following paragraph is from the Elastilon installation instructions:
"Expansion joints will also need to be installed in doorways, long hallways, and larger areas more than 33 ft (10 m) in length following the direction of the small width (eg. 3.5" width) of the floor boards. Additional Expansion joints are NOT necessary in the direction of the long length of the floor boards (and expanses longer than 33 ft are permitted). A small amount of white carpenters glue (PVA) must be applied to all adjoining ends (small ends of the boards).
I hope this helps. If you need more instruction, just let us know. Thanks for your inquiry!
Posted by: Lumber Liquidators | January 07, 2013 at 04:40 PM
I am using the Elastilon method but have one part of my house that incorporates two rooms and a hallway, where my flooring will be running about 50 feet "longs ways". I read in either the Bellawood or Elastilon installation instructions, that you shouldn't run more than 33 linear feet of flooring "long-ways" without a transition. Is this a hard and fast rule? I don't have a good place for a transition and would like the wood floor to flow from one room to the next without changing the direction. Using 3/4 x 5" Brazilian Cherry. Thanks for any ideas.
Posted by: Raven | January 07, 2013 at 01:16 PM
Thanks alot for this very informative post! Will try this out soon. I've tried different ways of installing over concrete slabs and I'm still experimenting to this day which is the best one.
Posted by: Rugs Cheap Dina | April 04, 2012 at 07:37 AM
The flooring industry always needs advice. I'm in a different area of flooring and when new technology and processes come out we need info like these blogs to help us navigate. Thanks Lumber Liquidators for keeping us up to speed. Very clean instructions.
Posted by: Annie Wieg | December 06, 2011 at 03:07 PM